'Double haters' who dislike both Biden and Trump may well have swelled in number after debate

28 June 2024, 23:29 | Updated: 29 June 2024, 04:58

On the pier in California's Manhattan Beach, 21-year-old Stella and her friends are crowded round a phone watching videos of two old men rowing about their golf handicap.

It's not the level of discourse they, or anyone else, hoped for from the presidential debate.

"It sounds like a drunk, blackout conversation they're having at 3am," one young woman says.

"I think Joe Biden is cognitively declining," says another. "I think he was never fit to be president, and I don't think he is now. I think there's a clear, obvious answer to who is fit and that is Trump 2024."

In affluent Manhattan Beach, 65% voted for Joe Biden in 2020 but some Democrat voters here are troubled by the version of the president they saw during the debate: Feeble voiced, stumbling over his words and unable to sell his vision for America.

"I felt disappointed, forlorn, despairing," says Loretta. "He didn't speak well at all. I believe that he's not demented as people accuse him of, but his communication difficulties were evident."

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Loretta is a lifelong Democrat voter, but Biden's debate performance might have changed her mind.

"I might have to hold my nose and vote for Trump," she says. "He has bad character traits. But it's certainly given me food for thought. Bad food, food poisoning."